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Kira Yagami
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PostSubject: Just my two cents.   Just my two cents. I_icon_minitimeTue May 21, 2013 4:06 am

History's repeating itself.

We once had an efficient way of recruiting people that acted as a sifter for all the gang hoppers and snitches in the family.

Now, from what I'm seeing, it's back to the old routine. (this is what I call the "MATT P VINCI"-era recruitment routine)

1. The guy approaches a member and asks for a job.

2. Someone orders somebody to interview the guy.

3. After a few random talks and "Interviews", (which only lasts for like what... 1-2 hours at maximum?) the guy gets RP tested.

4. The guy gets OOC tested, if he passes, he gets invited.

5. With just a simple 2 hour RP (at max) and a few minutes of "TESTS", you don't even know whether that guy will be loyal to the fam.. hell, you don't even know if that guy's a snitch.

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Now the HR Division (which was formerly known as Staff Development (Recruitment) Department until it got remade by George Bobson) was an elite squad of recruiters, what do I mean by elite? Fucking RP with Mokomaki for a whole day and you'll get what I mean by "elite".

We only hired and accepted people who are capable of showing the "Applicants" and "Prospects" what the Syndicate (JPC) is capable of. WHY? Because I want the fucking fam to look professional in front of those prospect's eyes. I want to give a first impression that we're not just a sissy ass fam that they can easily infiltrate. I want recruitment to be spot on, a recruitment that could easily tell if that guy's a snitch or not, a gang hopper or not, etc etc.

Now what are my suggestion / plans, you say? Simple.

1. Bring back the old prospect system that I originally started but make it less strict because the server's rp turned from shit to shitier now. No need to be that strict anymore or else we won't get any members at all.

Clueless on what the old prospect system was?

Refer to this thread.
https://syndicatengrp.forumtl.com/t942-human-resources-human-resources-information

Read Step 1 and 2, skip step 3 and make it the last step, then make that Step 4 (RP Test) longer, let's say 3-4 days.

That's a little introduction on what the old prospect system was.

WHY WAS IT TRASHED YOU ASK? Cause I left it behind when I became Admin, noone took care of it anymore and Lucas was busy with other tasks at hand.. so yeah, it got trashed.

(If you remember what this was, feel free to recreate it, if you can't, I'll make an outline for you guys so you can recreate it. )

2. Only accept HR members who are capable of Mid to High level of RP aka people with Mokomaki's caliber of RP, or at least Jose Dos Santos or Joe Manfredo's caliber of RP (I've seen them RP, they're ok, not in Mokomaki, Patricio or Lucas' level yet but they're ok). I don't care if they're low ranks, (r1 , r2), if they are capable, get them in the division.

3. Only accept HR members who are capable of utilizing the use of /do. People who can start a /do argument and get away with it without getting killed or out-RP'd, MURKING the person he's RP-ing with.
Why do we need this? Cause we fuckin' need to milk every single information from our prospects before we let them in the fam. This will reduce the snitches and all other vermin that you don't want lurkin' in the fam. Interviewing them and asking their basic info just doesn't cut it.

4. Change the R0 rank to something else instead of Prospect ("Grunt" or "Outsider" maybe?) and treat it as a normal rank instead of a "PROSPECT". Why? WE DON'T WENT THEM PROSPECTS IN THE FAMILY YET. THEY NEED TO PROVE THEMSELVES.


Now that's all, feel free to comment or w/e.





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PostSubject: Re: Just my two cents.   Just my two cents. I_icon_minitimeTue May 21, 2013 12:14 pm

This is a Fantastic Suggestion Maverick, It should really bring our profession higher than expected, however my concern as of this is the fact that there are several official gangs out there now (MBC in such high demand) ... We are facing massive amounts of competition, thus making it extremely difficult. Infact, families nowadays barely give out interviews - they just pop in and they find themself with an /invite.

Would you think it'd be advised to /invite the new applicants after completing all steps and then keeping them as a R0 until we confirm that they are suitable? I 100% believe that the Ranking System has sped up recently and I myself have been arguing to slow it down by quite a bit.

I've personally monitored Syndicate's activity ... I believe it has been higher in the pasts and I believe that there is still a lot to do - but what keeps us alive is this recruitment.

Check the stats:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Al2gSswgS8AjdHdvbjBNcVBFeDRfcFZyMWpYS0dGaEE&usp=sharing
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PostSubject: Re: Just my two cents.   Just my two cents. I_icon_minitimeTue May 21, 2013 1:25 pm

I'm Agree With This.Cause this is a serious Talk About People Who Has Good Rper And Not..

We Take This As Serious Thread.
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PostSubject: Re: Just my two cents.   Just my two cents. I_icon_minitimeTue May 21, 2013 2:58 pm

I agree to this 100%, I've been in Syndicate, when Lucas was the SH and it was incredible.. I support the prospect system, that they should be milked out every information they've got. I myself got to experience it. I was a prospect for about a week and I seriously got tested at all times.. Once I made it through the " Prospect " state, I had learnt so much new stuff I wasn't quite aknowledged and the "prospect" state really made me work hard, since I was keen to join this family..

I would listen to your advice as you're very highly respected by me. I'm nearly 100% sure, that you much more than I do, so feel free to guide/teach me. I will not be offended, since you're highly respected in my eyes and I believe in the whole family's eyes ( the people, who has been around earlier ).
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PostSubject: Re: Just my two cents.   Just my two cents. I_icon_minitimeWed May 22, 2013 2:56 am

Yes, I agree to this 100%, I agree about accepting members that are capable to RP to the fullest, no the troll ones. Indeed we need to change the ''Prospect'' name to a different so it could be treated as a normal rank just like what Maverick just said. Since we are getting more and more members, with Maverick's plan, we are gonna rise from inactivity to ACTIVE. I agree on this and thanks more mentioning my name there hehehe Smile

AGREED
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PostSubject: Re: Just my two cents.   Just my two cents. I_icon_minitimeSat May 25, 2013 11:18 am

John Snake wrote:
I agree to this 100%, I've been in Syndicate, when Lucas was the SH and it was incredible.. I support the prospect system, that they should be milked out every information they've got. I myself got to experience it. I was a prospect for about a week and I seriously got tested at all times.. Once I made it through the " Prospect " state, I had learnt so much new stuff I wasn't quite aknowledged and the "prospect" state really made me work hard, since I was keen to join this family..

I would listen to your advice as you're very highly respected by me. I'm nearly 100% sure, that you much more than I do, so feel free to guide/teach me. I will not be offended, since you're highly respected in my eyes and I believe in the whole family's eyes ( the people, who has been around earlier ).
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PostSubject: Re: Just my two cents.   Just my two cents. I_icon_minitimeSat May 25, 2013 11:23 am

boris is back yay
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PostSubject: Re: Just my two cents.   Just my two cents. I_icon_minitimeSun May 26, 2013 8:52 pm

Alright then we I'll talk to all HR members and do this style of recruitment I think this is really the best way even in IRL they do this kind of stuffs
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